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Rose and Bonds Have Nothing To Do With One Another

For the past week I’ve been reading columnists, and hearing talking heads, who constantly make reference to Pete Rose when addressing the Barry Bonds issue. Some say that Rose should be reinstated, or Hall of Fame eligible, because what he did was no worse than what Barry Bonds is accused of, and Bonds is still in the game. Others say that Bonds should be banished from the game and Hall of Fame, ala Pete Rose, because he has cheated, and tarnished the integrity of the game in a way that even Charlie Hustle didn’t.

Not only are both points of view incorrect, but Rose should forever stay banned from the game and HOF, and Bonds should never be banned from the game or HOF. Their situations, their crimes, share no similarities. As a matter of fact, they are as different as night and day.
First, what is cheating? Is cheating becoming bigger, stronger, or faster than your opponent? Is cheating the affecting of a game’s outcome by gaining an unfair advantage? Is cheating merely an act that violates a rule of the game?

Pete Rose was never accused of cheating. He was proven of having gambled on the sport of baseball. He was proven to have engaged in behavior that has the potential to cast a cloud of doubt on the integrity and outcome of every contested baseball game. It doesn’t matter that Pete Rose never gambled against his own team. What matters is that if a player is allowed to gamble on his sport, on his team, it opens the door for the questioning of the honesty of each games outcome. “Was that an honest error, or is he throwing the game? Did the manager put on a hit and run with a strikeout hitter by accident or was he throwing the game? That pitch was a bp fastball right down the middle, was he trying to give up a homerun?”

With gambling allowed, and not punished by the `death penalty’, we would never know if the game was decided honestly, and that inevitably would lead to the `death penalty’ for the entire sport. Rose should never be reinstated to the game, nor eligible for the Hall, because he, and he alone, jeopardized the entire foundation of the sport. Not only that, he signed an agreement banning him for life. He essentially affirmed the rectitude of baseball’s most important rule, and the punishment for violating it.

Rose’s situation is diametrically different than that of Barry Bonds. Some say Barry Bonds cheated. I don’t agree with that. Cheating is doctoring baseballs. Cheating is stealing signs. Cheating directly affects the outcome of a game. Gaylord Perry cheated. The 1951 New York Giants cheated. It was admitted years later that the Giants stole the Dodgers catcher signs during the 1951 season. The `shot heard `round the world’ was quite possibly due to Bobby Thompson knowing what kind of pitch was coming.

What Barry Bonds did was get bigger and stronger. He obviously accomplished this by some artificial means. However, that was not cheating. He still had to hit those pitches. He still had to hit those pitches squarely. He still had to lift those weights. He still had to catch up to those balls. Steroids don’t make you some sort of automatic machine. Steroids don’t give you an unfair advantage in a baseball contest. Steroids improve physique, not physics. Steroids don’t affect your discipline, your patience, your game IQ.

Many players get bigger and stronger. If a hitter lifts weights and a pitcher does not, does the hitter have an unfair advantage? If a pitcher drinks loads of caffeine on game day so that he can have an adrenaline rush, and more juice on his pitches, does he have an unfair advantage?  Don’t get me wrong, this is no endorsement of steroid use. Steroids are dangerous drugs with dangerous side effects that should only be used for medicinal purposes, and under a doctor’s supervision.

The problem is not that steroids are performance enhancing, the problem is that their purpose is not to enhance performance but to aid a medical problem. Weight lifting is performance enhancing. Nutritional supplements are performance enhancing. Caffeine is performance enhancing. Believe that if scientists could find a way to produce steroids that have no debilitating side effects, and whose purpose is solely to provide supplemental energy and strength, that those steroids would be legal.

I’m simply drawing an analogy here. The difference between steroids and `nutritional’ supplements is the same difference between cocaine and alcohol. One’s legal and considered less dangerous, the other is illegal and thought to be extremely dangerous. However, they both do the same thing. They alter your ability. In the case of drugs and alcohol, your ability to think rationally is altered. In the case of steroids and supplements, your ability to get stronger is altered.

Bonds didn’t cheat because we know the outcome of his games, of his at-bats, were due solely to his ability and not to some underlying, nefarious motivations. That can be said of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Jason Giambi, Rafael Palmeiro, Sammy Sosa, Ken Caminitti, Jose Canseco, and the rest of the accused steroid users.

What’s odd in this entire ordeal is not just the attempt to purify Rose by crucifying Bonds, but it’s also the singular crucifixion of Barry Bonds. How and why is Barry Bonds being singled out for punishment? I haven’t heard anyone advocate the league investigating and punishing Jason Giambi. I haven’t heard anyone advocate the league retroactively placing asterisks on, or expunging, the statistics of Mark McGwire. It seems Barry Bonds is being solely targeted for immediate punitive action. Not only has that, Bonds seemed to have become the recipient of so much malicious venom. I’ve read columnists write that the ultimate revenge will be when Bonds’ body begins to malfunction and his health deteriorates. The wishing of ill will towards Bonds is not something that was witnessed with McGwire. No one celebrated in 2004 when Jason Giambi was out ill with a possible steroid related health problem.

I’m wishing ill towards Bonds also. I hope he has an ill April and passes George Herman Ruth by the middle of the month. And, I’m hoping he has an ill May, June, July, and August, and passes Hammerin’ Hank Aaron by middle September.

10 replies on “Rose and Bonds Have Nothing To Do With One Another”

Bonds People are up at arms about Bonds and steroids because he’s about to break records that were set back in “the good old days” and ruin the nostalgic, pristine image people have of baseball.  Once he breaks them, baseball will be forced to deal with the train wreck it allowed to happen.  I too hope Bonds passes Ruth and Aaron, maybe then MLB will start to get it’s act together.  good stuff.

on the same page I couldn’t agree with you more on some of the issues especially the witch hunt for Bonds while others get a pass. Giambi is an admitted steroid user yet he gets comeback player of the year? People freak out about ‘roids like that was the singular factor in these players rise to fame. As if Joe Schmoe would have hit 700+ homers if only he was on the juice. I’m just glad baseball finally got it’s act together and implemented a testing program so we don’t need to hear about these debates for years to come.

I don’t agree one bit First off what Bonds did was cheating. Anything that is in a rule book is there for a reason. Bonds broke the rule book. Don’t even tell me Bonds didn’t know what he was doing. Anytime an athlete puts something into there body or have something done to them without them knowing what it is, is just plain out stupid. Not only is it illegal in baseball, but also in the United States. Steroids is cheating. Period. Yes, you are still hitting those balls, and yes, that takes talent. Steroids knocks your game up to   levels that most athletes don’t dream of. They make you quicker, stronger, and more coordinated. Steroids do this unnaturally, which is unfair to the players in the MLB that are great ball players but don’t get that kind of credit because  they don’t cheat. Imagine Hank Aaron on steroids. 800 home runs easy. Aaron didn’t use steroids and won the home run king fairly, and you’re saying that a cheater with unfair adavantages should steal that record. I can’t believe it.

Bonds vs. Rose Yes, Bonds would have been a shoe-in for the Hall of Fame even without steroids.  He has always been a great player.  But banned substances are banned for a reason, and using them is cheating.

On the other hand, you made great points about HOFer Perry and the NY Giants.  This goes to show that you can’t make one set of rules for one person, and another set for someone else.

I don’t want to see Bonds pass either Ruth or Aaron.  If MLB proves he was violating the rules, give him the 50 game suspension under the drug testing agreement.  But then you have to let him come back for that 51st game and let him try to break those records until he fails another test.

And thanks for bringing up Rose’s agreement to be banned from the game.  That’s the only reason I wouldn’t elect him to the Hall.  Otherwise I’d put him in today.

Great article, keep up the good work!

okay come on! We all know that Barry Bonds would still be a Hall of Famer w/o steroids. He’d still probably have around 600 home runs, and he’d probably be retired by now. Not only did the steroids make him quicker and stronger, they let him play for longer than he should’ve and they kept him strong through a time when any other player would be declining dramtically. There is also an effect of momentum and team chemistry. The Giants know they have this amazing superhuman slugger to look up to and lead them, but they would not as much if he wasn’t as strong and powerful at age 40 as he was. Bottom line, Bonds broke the rules, Rose broke the rules, but they both deserve to be in the HOF. (Also Rose, Bonds, McGwire, anyone else that cheated, and/or took steroids need to have an asterisk next to their names in Cooperstown and I’m not speaking figuratively I’m absolutely serious.)

Something we fellow Sportscolumn writers can do.. For all people who live in National League (or select few AL for interleague) cities: Make a small placard with a giant asterisk on it or have *Bonds on it or *715 and make at least 50-100 copies to pass out (or as many as you can) and we can hold them up at all the games and get on TV and stuff.

That’s a good idea RJ, that’s an amazing idea. As well as Bonds plays when he’s antagonized, those signs will definitely mean he passes Ruth in early April and Hammerin’ Hank in mid-September. Those signs will add to Bonds’ spite for his critics and give him even more fuel to belt balls out of the park. He may even play a few day games after nighttime games.

I’m waiting until late in the summer before I decide wheter I’ll shell out the big bucks to be in Chicago or Cincy in early September. It all depends on how close Bonds is to Mr. Aaron. Make sure you make up enough signs because Barry thrives off of those boos!

By the way… You wrote a very good article. On this site last week people were building up Rose by trashing Bonds, which I don’t agree with. I actually wish people wouldn’t boo Bonds. I feel that absolute silence when he breaks the record (which anyone has to admit he’s going to do if he plays all year) would be better. Of course that would never happen because 1) people just wouldn’t be able to contain themselves and 2) I’m sure that the Giants will do everything possible to make sure Bonds breaks the record in San Francisco. Just like #’s 500, 600, 661, and 700. Save your money.

Hell I live in San Francisco I don’t think that sign is gonna fly at SBC Park… although it would be highly amusing.

Bonds and the record — It’s a good article I gotta give you that. But i don’t think that Barry Bonds should be the one to break Aaron’s record…..this record is almost the holey grale of records….it was set when baseball was pure…..when guys used to have fun…no worries about contracts making money…and all of today’s topics…..Bonds used performance enhacing drugs…to put his numbers up…..Aaron was pure talent…..i’m not saying that Bonds doesn’t have any talent….but still he needed HELP to get to where he is today

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