Let’s not be so quick to ignore the fortunate opportunity Davis received in 2000, and how he wasted it away in the latter half of his six-year tenure at Indiana.This past Tuesday, as the sports world now knows, legendary college basketball coach, Bobby Knight, was a guest on ESPN’s morning show, “Cold Pizza.”
Facts are facts: Knight is an irreverent fellow who has “offended” many media members over the years with his over-the-top honesty and his lack of concern for tip-toeing the PC line. In 1985, he threw a chair when an official made a porous call, Knight has ripped the media for their lack of professionalism and has chastised many of his players for their lack of hustle and intensity among others instances.
Most collegiate coaches do much of the same (or should) but Knight has always, unfairly in my view, been under more intense scrutiny and kept on a shorter leash over the years, especially over the past decade.
Renowned sports novelist, John Feinstein, has written tell-all books about him, and ESPN has even made one into a movie, and debuts a reality show about “The General” Sunday evening.
The other fact worth noting (conveniently and naturally ignored by the immortal media) is that Coach Knight graduates all his players, and no other college basketball coach, not Mike Krzyzewski at Duke nor coaches at academic bastions like Stanford nor Northwestern, for example, do that anymore. Knight also looks out for his players after they graduate. He is a good man, a noble man, and in a perfect world, he would be lionized rather the demonized.
So when ESPN’s Dana Jacobsen treated him with precious little respect last week, Knight was understandably incensed. Firstly, Jacobsen asked Knight not once, not twice, but three times in various and direct ways how much longer he would continue coaching basketball. Knight first declined to answer. Then, he amicably noted how wonderful the life of a collegiate coach is, with six or seven months per year off to hunt, fish, play golf and watch baseball; and that he could, considering this, coach much longer. After the persistent Jacobsen ignored his words, and pestered him for an exacting response, Knight politely asked her the analogous question of how long she would continue cooking breakfast. Perhaps this was the wrong question to ask a female sports reporter, but his point was obvious. The PC radio, TV and print media then typically attacked the coach for the “gender insensitive” remark. Most were looking for a story and a soundbyte, and did not care what the content leading up to the statement was; they just thought he was being a sexist.
Finally, Jacobsen broached the topic of Indiana basketball. Knight coached there for nearly 30 years before, in my view and many others’, being totally disrespected for reprimanding a student who was showing him (Knight) disrespect in the middle of campus during the fall of 2000. He was forced to resign.
Since that incident, Knight has repeatedly told any reporters who will listen that he wants nothing to do with discussions about Indiana University basketball and that he will not comment. When Jacobsen then ignorantly asked him about the Hoosiers, Knight ended the interview.
No one is going to accuse Bob Knight of being a modest, acquiescing fellow; however, he is still a West Point graduate, three time national title winner as a coach, a role model to anyone who has played for him, a husband, father and a genuinely good human being. Ask any of his friends or former players.
Last week, when current IU coach, Mike Davis, was asked about his dubious future at IU, Davis, an African-American responded, “I don’t know. Maybe they should hire one of their own.” Then, in Thurday’s press conference, Davis continually hammered how the team, fans, community and school would be “more united” with him gone, and that this is a good day for Indiana basketball.
So Knight gets fired for castigating an immature student, and blackballed for comments that contained the smallest hint of gender insensitivity, yet Davis, hired to succeed the legendary Knight with zero head coaching experience in Division One, makes a completely inane remark, with a strong hint of regionalism and racism, few care, and many naturally see HIM as the victim.
Maybe the fact that Mike essentially had just one good year out of six with the Hoosiers and missed the postseason the past two seasons (going on three) plays a factor in the disgruntled fan base. It has nothing to do with race or IU alumni, but lack of cohesion and, most importantly, limited success, especially recently.
Indiana’s Athletic Director, Rick Greenspan, would have undoubtedly proceeded accordingly and fired Davis at season’s end, but since Davis resigned, the mainstream media will thankfully not be given the opportunity to go bananas and rush to Davis’s defense.
Kansas City Star Columnist, Jason Whitlock, capped off his article on the Davis debacle on ESPN.com today perfectly when he noted, “Are there some IU fans who don’t like Davis simply because of the color of his skin? Yes. But that element in no way cost Davis his job. Mike Davis cost himself one of the best jobs in America by wallowing in pity.
Pity provides comfort, but it sure don’t pay the bills.”
Precisely.
15 replies on “Mike Davis enjoyed far more tolerance than Bobby Knight while at IU”
couple comments as you probably could have figured I am an Indiana University fan. A big one. And actually I was going to write an article under this sort of topic yet not completely like this. But I must say I don’t think you educated yourself enough about IU basketball to write this article. For one the title and essence of the article is wrong. Bobby Knight may have done some controversial things but he was Indiana’s and we loved him. We trusted him and he didn’t endure as much scrutiny as you think. Second, Davis has had some tough breaks. he’s a good coach and recruiter. Last year he had a very young team and this year a great team was in place but All-Big Ten Freshman of the year, D.J White got injured indefinitely. He’s the one that has been hammered for the last 2 years. And don’t you dare say that our players are “thug-like.” That is probably the worst insult you could say and also the most wrong. Players at IU finish with all academic honors and Davis doesn’t recruit thugs. Players graduate most of the time and just like most other division I schools. I think he is a great coach but he doesn’t quite belong at IU. He could be a great coach somewhere else without the pressure and where he feels comfortable. And he did have division I experience being an assistant for Bobby for a couple of years. Lastly, it wasn’t just one good year, he had 2 maybe 3. How does going to the second round in the NCAA tourney not count as a good year? How does going to the Nat’l Championship not count as a fantastic year? This was written well but I have to vote this down because of being wrong too much.
Ok… Thanks for responding. A couple of points:
Two more things
Now, considering the fact that said the article was well-written, that you misinterpreted a lot of the piece and I corrected my misstatements, I would appreciate you taking back your “no” vote. It’s only fair.
IU One of the most proud traditions in College Hoops. Things change over the years, as I being a die hard Penn State Football fan, found out. Winning was Hoosiers basketball… losing to Penn State hoops last night was unheard of. I dont know enough about the program to be one to judge fully, but I would think the University as a whole is trying to do just that, restore the tradition. Winning heals everything. To get back to winning, the “IU Way”, maybe it is time for someone with roots to the program to take over and for Davis to step down. Someone who knows what Hoosier fans like and has an insider on the system I think would be very benificial.
sorry… can’t take back the no vote and although some things were misinterpreted, I think you went in a bad direction with this topic. I know very well what IU basketball is about since I have generations of family in that school. And even though second round in the tourney isn’t great it’s not a lost season. I think that Davis is a better fit elsewhere. Secondly, what you said was Davis had no division I coaching experience. Not head coaching so I was not completely wrong to criticize you there. And player wise I think you don’t get what a thug is. Davis wasn’t recruiting players from Indiana. The majority were from the south where Davis has ties to. The players you listed were all from Indiana. I was born and bred in New York so I know what a thug is. Players on IU are not thugs. You are actually being pretty racist when you judge players as thugs or not based on the length of their shorts or color. Ron Artest is a thug. Stereotypical thug universities are Miami and St. John’s. Mike Davis hasn’t recruited player of the sort. I’m glad though that you mention Coverdale he’s still my favorite Hoosier.
still incorrect from the article:
“So Knight gets fired for castigating an immature student, and blackballed for comments that contained the smallest hint of gender insensitivity, yet Davis, hired to succeed the legendary Knight with zero head coaching experience in Division One, makes a completely inane remark…”
Now, do you see this?
War Coverdale!
well then… I’m sorry I read incorrectly
No problem One last thing. Look at IU’s stats this season, and you will see lower than usual free throw percentages and a porous assist/turnover ratio. I just don’t think Davis is a very good coach, and the players are not the fundamentally sound types that Knight used to recruit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/teams/iai/stats
Like to comment… I tried to post this earlier, and it never made it up (hope they didn’t think I was trolling, and if it came out that way I totally apologize). I just can’t disagree more. Maybe I’m just not a Bobby Knight fan. I do respect him, and if I ever met him I would be happy to shake his hand and call him “Coach Knight” or “Mr. Knight.” I also remember watching that Roy Firestone interview and being close to tears over the story of the player who was paralyzed; so coach Knight got the Boston Celtics to make him an honorary draft pick. Wow. I was also impressed that Coach Knight was very reluctant to talk about it, not wanting any spotlight for a good deed. But other than that, the guy’s a total, miserable lout. Why does he always have to act this way? He agrees to do all of these interviews, just so he could blow up/storm out/act like a child. I’m sorry, but there’s something to be said for class. Think about it, in all of sports, there’s I don’t know, say, 1,000 head coaches out there. Who else acts this way? I was watching the Cold Pizza interview, and I agree that Dana Jacobson was out of line by pushing the issue and asking the second time. But you know what? Mr. Knight was rude in interrupting and Jacobsen just reacted, albeit poorly. Like it or not, it was a legitimate question, and any sports journalist worth their microphone had to ask it. Of course, Knight has every right to refuse a comment, but why not tactfully? Let her finish, say “Dana, I haven’t been there in 5 years and I could care less what’s going on up there. I have 15 kids down here in Lubbock to worry about. I don’t know, something like that. I know, that’s PC and boring, and that’s the last we’d ever expect of Coach Knight. Also I disagree that Davis enjoyed more tolerance. How can you say that? This man was in Coach Knight’s shadow from Day One. Davis was there 5 years, and I believe he was so blatantly pushed out. The man never had a chance, and he’s whip smart for getting out. Bobby Knight was at IU for what, 30 years? He didn’t show up at IU in 1998 and have this happen. Agree or not, his firing was building and building. The whole “zero tolerance” thing was maybe kind of bogus, but it was a policy that Coach Knight apparently agreed to and didn’t follow. Yeah, it was unfortunate that some punk had to set it off, but if it didn’t happen then, it would have happened eventually. Now, of course, I’m not an IU guy, I have no ties to the university, so I’m not on the inside like you are. But I just have to go with what I heard a sportswriter say a few years back after the “Salad Bar” incident at Texas Tech, because I can’t put it any better myself. He said: “Bobby Knight is a man who refuses to live by the standard for which he sets to his players.” Sorry this was so long, but I had to get this off my chest. It’s a helluvan article, though, if it’s getting this much reaction.
Thanks Good points, and I totally agree Knight was not being a very tolerant nor fair fellow in the interview, no matter what Jacobsen said, but she brought the situation to the boiling point. So, while Bobby was wrong to walk away and act immaturely, she gets the blame; she knows him, and should have known better.
Also, as far as Davis, yes, he was under scrutiny from Day One. For the umpteenth time – and I apologize if this is still opaque – the NATIONAL MEDIA is unfair to Knight, and far too lenient on Davis. IU was brutal, but the national media pumped up Davis far too much, and laid far too much blame on Knight. But they of course feed on sensationalism, so lambasting Knight is more enjoyable than poor Mr. Davis.
RJ you’ll never understand any of this because your not from Indiana or go/went to IU. Knight is different from anyone else. He’s not politically correct nor does he go by normal standards. That’s why we love him; He’s different. When he walked out of that interview, it wasn’t a big deal because we expected it from Bobby. Say what you will, but he is one of the best coaches in the history of college basketball and those players that have had the priviledge to play for him all love him and respect him. His ways might be different but he doesn’t care. That’s Robert Montgomery Knight for ya. Deal with it. Anyway as shown in the comment above, I disagree with the argument of this article as well.
Awesome…. Hey guys, thanks for responding. It appears all three of us have our own opinion and nothing will change that. People either love coach Knight or can’t stand him. Now that I really think about it, Davis was riding the coattails of getting to the final in 2002. But I think all three of us would agree it’s best for IU basketball that Davis is leaving and the program hopefully will be able to move on. On the other hand, IU fans need to get coach Knight out of their system (since he’s been gone since 2000-01) I’m one of those that believe the world is right on it’s axis when Indiana hoops is going to the Final Four, not the NIT.
Of course Of course Davis was riding the coattails of Knight. That’s why I think he was a mediocre (or worse) coach. Heck, Roy Williams rode Matt Doherty’s coattails to the title last year.
IU fan62, what are you talking about now? You don’t agree with my article, but, generally, you agree with all that I say about Knight.
Comments I published a longer, more socio-political version of this essay on a major news website yesterday, and have received more than 30 email comments on it just today. Nine out of ten are positive, and here is an example of one person’s reaction:
Mr. Kaufman:
Great article & perspective. I found the female sports person stepping over the line with her pestering of Coach Knight. I definitely agree with your insight into Mike Davis. He was hired under Brand who is now leading the NCAA as well doubled his salary (must have learned from Mike Davis). Mike Davis has embarrassed all minority coaches with his performance and his “speaking” from the heart. I believe that someone wrote his resignation speech. Davis had all ready convinced “his” players to leave IU when he does…..so his termination contract clause had little meaning. WHY? IU would want Davis to coach the remaining of the season after his “Alford ill” where he was not too ill to do media interviews. Yes, Whitlock stated it all extremely well. Davis will never accept that he, himself, and is lack of performance, lack of recruiting in state & miffing H.S. Indiana coaches etc cost him the job.
Davis (with Jesse Jackson coaching) will make it a pity, pity situation. What school will hire him…..he upset the Auburn with his recruiting, etc. as I understand it from a southern sports writer.
Tom Amaker at U of M is an outstanding representative (even if he is not the best coach).
Here is the URL for the aforementioned piece: http://www.therant.us/staff/a_kaufman/02212006.htm