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Great players? (#4)
by leontk on Mon Oct 04 2004 at 7:22 PM EST
I agree that TO is a great player, and in my opinion I think Randy McMicheal is one of the better TE's in this  league, and Chambers can be one of the best WR's in this league.....but I didn't say that they are great players, i said they are top playmakers in the NFL, which is true, they are.....but, I also said:

Randy McMichael and Chambers are all top notch playmakers and all capable of being stars in this league.

Keywords there are "capable of being stars in this league", i realize they arent TO, but I think they can be up in that category, I do think McMicheal can be Tony Gonzalez in a better offense and Chambers can be in the top 5 WR's in the NFL, but how can they perform under pressure when the QB can't get them the ball??????  I have to disagree with that, a WR and TE can do so much...and last time i checked TO didn't have such a great year last year in SF, just a few TD's to state the facts, and that is all he had, which goes to show no WR can perform up to their level if they play with a QB that cant seem to throw a football or with a line that cant block....but that might be just me, but i must say I have watched both players and have seen them in many games since they came into the league, and they are really good and in my opinion, 2 of the best but its too bad right now they cant show it, but hopefully soon they will.

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qoute (#5)
by the A man88 on Mon Oct 04 2004 at 7:35 PM EST
i do have to say that McMicheal is a great player and so is Chambers

moving on...

Well i havent really seen the Dolphins play too much this season, but to me, it seems that McMichale and Chambers arent even on the field. I rarly heard announcers talk about these players after they make a big play. it seems they arent even apart of the team. If not recieving the ball, the they should eb showing those crappy linemen how to block, they should just go in and kick the crap outta somebody. Randys a big guy, he can handle it.

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Agree to disagree (#6)
by leontk on Tue Oct 05 2004 at 8:47 AM EST
Yes, in my opinion they are great players, but I guess in your definition, i should say really good?  I did state that they are capable of being stars because even though I say great, i consider them to be a level down from the stars in the league, currently.  so i agree with you that they arent at that level yet, and by your definition i will say they are really good players.

as for not hearing about them, a player isnt talked about much unless they have a chance to make a play, and for them to do that they need a pass to catch.  now, Randy is a great blocker, and a leader, he got up into the OLINE's faces and had a few things to say to try to get them going, just a few games back.....he plays with emotion and with leadership and does anything he can when he does see a pass to make it into a good play....and he blocks, and leads, and catches and just makes plays....i have seen 3 of the 4 games Miami has played and i will just say Randy has been talked about a lot, including this past weekend against the Jets when it seemed he was the only one doing anything good....since Chambers was out of this game with an injury.  

so as far as saying the announcers arent saying much about the guys, well, after 3 games this year, i have to say chambers hasnt been talked about much but Randy has.....and they are both good blockers but you wont hear an announcer say anything about blocking because one thing that isnt something they give praise for as much as they should and the other thing.....and  i have watched and analyzed Miami this year for the 3 games so i have seen it.....the RB never gets more than 2 yds, a WR has no chance ot show he can block down the field if the play never makes it past the DLINE......and if you dont believe me, look up the Dolphins yards per carry this year and see for yourself.....so both can catch, both can block, and i dont judge talent by what an announcer has to say, but that is just me.

Here you go:  4    90    239    2.7(average/carry)

239 yds in 4 games?  are you kidding me?  This article was about how bad Miami's offense is this year and who is to blame.  I will stand by the comment that Chambers and Randy are stars and would be top notch with a better offense, or should i say QB and line.  Funny thing is...randy is already in the top 3 TE's in this league:

 Eric Johnson SFO 4   28  298  74.5  10.6  25  2.0  16  1    0  0  0.0  0.0  0    1  1    
 Randy McMichael MIA 4   24  274  68.5  11.4  37  4.9  18  1    0  0  0.0  0.0  0    0  0    
 Alge Crumpler ATL 4   16  250  62.5  15.6  33  5.3  10  1    0  0  0.0  0.0  0    0  0

But I will agree to disagree.....since you think they arent that great and arent talked about by the announcers, then ok.  I would still have to say they are in the top few in their positions.  More Randy than Chmabers because i know TO and Harrison and Moss and some others are better at this point in their careers.  

Thanks for all the comments though, been fun reading and seeing other views.

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