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10 Reasons Ron Zook should be fired by Florida | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

The Zook Firing (#2)
by collegefbfan on Tue Nov 16 2004 at 9:21 AM EST

Winning is winning. Either by a field goal or by seven touchdowns. Go ahead and get rid of Zook. Just hope your fate doesn't match the one of the Nebraska Corbhuskers. They fired Solich and he was winning. Zook is not Spurrier. Heck, who is? Zook did not take over some two-bit program. He took over the University of Florida. Before Zook, they didn't win less than nine games in a season for, what, the last 12 years. Players make mistakes and the coach gets blamed. Last second or last minute plays happen. Like the LSU and Tennessee games. Balls from long passes should be knocked down. Just use the prevent defense. Talk to the Miami Hurricanes about a guy named Flutie and a pass he threw back in 1984. Have a discussion with the Michigan Wolverines about a pass thrown by Kordell Stewart that should have been knocked down. Many analysts ask, "Why were only three players rushing Stewart?" That sounds like a coaching call to me. Back to Zook and Florida. He has won more games than he has lost. See where the Gators are next after Zook is ousted. They will either be a) keeping teams like Kentucky and Vanderbilt company; or worse b) looking up to teams like Kentucky and Vanderbilt. Hey Florida, YOU ARE THE NEXT NEBRASKA! Otherwise the article was pretty good.
Brian Hodges

Zook was winning? (#3)
by bsd987 on Thu Nov 18 2004 at 3:24 PM EST

So far: 22-14.

Wins have come over Vanderbilt (3-0), Kentucky (3-0), UAB (1-0), Ohio (1-0), San Jose State (1-0), Florida A&M (1-0), Eastern Michigan (1-0), and Middle Tennessee State (1-0).

Other than that: 10-14.

None of those teams (other than 1-AA FAMU) completed winning seasons the year they beat them. The last 2 years he beat South Carolina and they too finished with losing marks. This year they are bowl eligable. That makes 14/22 wins over teams with losing marks (with Arkansas about to join that trend). He beat Georgia twice, Tennessee once, LSU once, Arkansas twice, and Auburn once.

Only 8 wins over teams with winning marks, and that number can be crashed to 7 soon. Barely 2 a year!

His close WINS have come over lowsy Kentucky (twice), lowsy Vanderbilt (once), Georgia (twice), Auburn (once), Arkansas (once) and South Carolina. 8 close wins and 4 against lowly teams (5 against sub-.500 teams). 4 of those close wins came in his first year.

Close lose: Ole Miss (twice), Michigan (once), Miami (FL) (once), Florida State (once), Tennessee (once), LSU (once), Mississippi State (once), and Georgia (once). 9 close loses and 7 in the last 2 years.

Close games record: 8-9

Close games record in first year: 4-2
Close games record in second year: 4-3
Close games record in third year: 0-4

A close game is a game decided by 8 points or less.

He has not been winning.

He has a losing mark in close games and only 8/22 wins have come against bowl-eligable teams.

He has won only 3 close games against quality opponents. He has lost 8 such games.

Also, his teams have been no-shows twice in bowls. Zook had to go.
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: No Big Deal (#4)
by collegefbfan on Fri Nov 19 2004 at 9:07 AM EST

When a coach's record is looked at, no one takes into consideration close wins, lousy teams, etc. Look at the Miami Hurricanes under Jimmy Johnson or Larry Coker, and Virginia Tech under Frank Beamer. They have or had great records but no one pays attention to who the wins came against. They are still wins. Joe Paterno, Bobby Bowden, Steve Spurrier have all beat up on lousy teams. I still believe it is a "W" in the win column. Who defined a close game is decided by 8 points or less? Is that in the ten commandments? Or the NCAA rule book? Eight points is barely more than a touchdown and extra point. If a team is losing by 3 near the end of the game and they miss a field goal and the other team scores a quick touchdown. If the first team loses by 10 is that not a close game? Sounded close. All that stuff about quality wins, close wins, etc. means nothing. Zook doesn't have Spurrier's record. Who does? Winning is winning.
Brian Hodges
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